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      <title>#38. Aristotle: Be Mean, Please replied by donkarp @ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:33:51 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;My philosphy prof in college told us that Aristotle&amp;#8217;s mean was only valid in things like eating and such. Not in important life issues. and actions. He was teaching courses in political philosphy. What would the &amp;#8220;mean&amp;#8221; look like in US politics? A moderate? Perhaps this is to be compared with the Middle Way of the Buddah? Or with the fact that introducing the proper third element resolves the twosome of polarities?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>#38. Aristotle: Be Mean, Please replied by brian @ Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:48:37 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;love it! :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>#38. Aristotle: Be Mean, Please replied by TravisE @ Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:44:10 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;James beat me to it!&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.traviseneix.com/the-middle-way-youre-soaking-in-it/"&gt;http://www.traviseneix.com/the-middle-way-youre&amp;#8230;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>#38. Aristotle: Be Mean, Please replied by James_in_China @ Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:38:39 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Oh yeah: &amp;#8220;Golden mean&amp;#8221;=Buddhism&amp;#8217;s &amp;#8220;Middle Way.&amp;#8221; Lots of Buddhist literature on that. The Greeks and the Aryans of India had a lot in common&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>#38. Aristotle: Be Mean, Please replied by James_in_China @ Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:37:05 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Re: Buffoonery&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;There used to be a quiz show on &lt;span class="caps"&gt;NPR&lt;/span&gt; after &amp;#8220;A Prairie Home Companion,&amp;#8221; called &amp;#8220;My Word&amp;#8221; (may still be on, for all I know). Celebrity guests had to answer questions about language. They were really &amp;#8220;witty&amp;#8221; people. Sometimes, when one didn&amp;#8217;t know the answer, he&amp;#8217;d make up something funny. The moderator, who had full power over the granting of points, would say, &amp;#8220;Two marks, for effrontery.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Cracked me up. As a junior hi teacher, I used that more than once in class! Couldn&amp;#8217;t give marks for buffoonery, tough&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>#38. Aristotle: Be Mean, Please replied by brian @ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:43:08 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;For both excessive and insufficient exercise destroy one's strength, and both eating and drinking too much or too little destroy health, whereas the right quantity produces, increases or preserves it. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;So it is the same with temperance, courage and the other virtues...&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;This much then, is clear: in all our conduct it is the mean that is to be commended.&amp;quot; &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;~ Aristotle, 4th century bce Greek philosopher from &lt;em&gt;The Nicomachean Ethics&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Mean. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Aristotle establishes the fact that virtue lies between the vice of excess and the vice of deficiency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My favorite example of the mean is &lt;em&gt;courage&lt;/em&gt;: If we don&amp;rsquo;t have &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; fear, we&amp;rsquo;re prone to rash behavior--this is a vice. If we allow our fears to overwhelm us, we&amp;rsquo;ll be cowardly--this, too, is a vice. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The virtue, of course, is with the mean: Courage.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As Aristotle reminds us, it's not about being fearless, it's about acknowledging the fear and then having the courage to &lt;a href="http://brian.zaadz.com/blog/2005/12/thinkArete_themanifesto"&gt;&lt;u&gt;do what needs to be done &lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;em&gt;in spite&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt; of being afraid&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A few other examples of the mean for those curious souls:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Vice of Deficiency&lt;/u&gt;	&lt;u&gt;Virtuous Mean&lt;/u&gt; 	&lt;u&gt;Vice of Excess&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cowardice		Courage	 	Rashness&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Want of Ambition 	Right Ambition 	Over-Ambition&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Spiritlessness		Good Temper 	Irascibility&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Boorishness 		Wittiness	 	Buffoonery&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shamelessness 		Modesty 		Bashfulness&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="justify"&gt;(&amp;ldquo;Buffoonery&amp;rdquo; has to be one of my favorite words, btw. That and &amp;ldquo;&lt;u&gt;&lt;a href="http://brian.zaadz.com/blog/2007/10/big_idea_feeling_hardy_today"&gt;hardy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&amp;rdquo; :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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